tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4487413006559113471.post5891159066433920480..comments2024-03-14T07:11:37.650+00:00Comments on Porky's Expanse!: Space marines in spacePorkyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00604351052444947490noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4487413006559113471.post-4719320261110201802012-12-09T22:18:41.951+00:002012-12-09T22:18:41.951+00:00Hard to disagree with most of that.
Re viability ...Hard to disagree with most of that.<br /><br />Re viability in business terms, if 3D printing took off, it might eventually get to the point where the big producers had to switch from selling physical things, and encouraging ever larger forces, to selling only the designs, which players would then print in the form of as many models as they chose. Then those producers would be earning more on the variety of designs, which could mean less of each design suggested in an average force anyway, but with the initial cost to the player of each type and the greater control in the hands of the players, and maybe locally, those players might feel freer to experiment far more along these lines.Porkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00604351052444947490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4487413006559113471.post-42987511066835547352012-12-09T15:27:38.343+00:002012-12-09T15:27:38.343+00:00You don't sell box after box at 40 bucks a pop...You don't sell box after box at 40 bucks a pop this way, sir.<br /><br />I think it's strange that an IG army could conceivably beat a SM army at the same points value. I mean the point of SMs is that they are SUPERhuman and the IG is just a standard man with a crummy lasgun and a lotta heart, kid.<br /><br />The future is grim and without fun, now, IMHO. Don't get me wrong I still paint squads with glee. The fluff is so heartless and square jawed. They use the same adjectives in every book.Noah S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00334330076709008756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4487413006559113471.post-22868453751274654992011-12-11T16:54:14.336+00:002011-12-11T16:54:14.336+00:00@ Pierce - That morale point makes sense. In the k...@ Pierce - That morale point makes sense. In the kind of list we're talking about there could be a simple rule like the one for stompas, or a full set of effects like the acts of faith, to represent marines calming and inspiring those around them.<br /><br />@ Kaiju - That's a very apt analogy. Space marines functioning more like inquisitors do now definitely has an attraction. If you like the kill team rules, you might like <a href="http://www.thecodexproject.com/killzone/" rel="nofollow">Killzone</a> too. The latest version is just up.<br /><br />@ G - I can feel that pain. Have you read the rumours that the updated Tau will have the option of all <a href="http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Demiurg" rel="nofollow">Demiurg</a> forces? The suggestion is the HQ choice will be an ancient figure, and that hints at the faction building on the Squat heritage, and maybe specifically the ancestor lord. I can imagine Demiurg being designed enough like Squats to mollify past players and draw the inquisitive, but different enough to save some face. I wonder what overall effect the decision to drop them has had on GW over the years, and how a return will play out.Porkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00604351052444947490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4487413006559113471.post-40875268851322559202011-12-11T00:18:20.392+00:002011-12-11T00:18:20.392+00:00I gave up on 40K when they got rid of the squats a...I gave up on 40K when they got rid of the squats and my army became redundant :(Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10678343815209441212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4487413006559113471.post-43649111869242311162011-12-10T22:22:38.491+00:002011-12-10T22:22:38.491+00:00I agree. I'm all for the Marine-as-superhero i...I agree. I'm all for the Marine-as-superhero idea. You mentioned the Deathwatch, and that's more of the idea that I have about Space Marines. It's why I especially like smaller army games like the Kill Team rules.<br /><br />Maybe a half-dozen or so Marines, like Pierce said, with their Imperial Guard allies. I see them more like the Inquisitors in that respect.<br /><br />Looking forward to reading more of your ideas.Kaijuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06184830369889881159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4487413006559113471.post-43994543882614452072011-12-10T18:08:53.748+00:002011-12-10T18:08:53.748+00:00I like this alot. I was going to say the same thin...I like this alot. I was going to say the same thing about the movie marines. In the fluff i really like the times we see imperials trying to hold trenchlines, and for every section of 100 guardsmen there is 1 or 2 spacemarines spread out to hold the line and bolster morale.Piercehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17342275462566805167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4487413006559113471.post-53535441234233956662011-12-10T18:04:18.406+00:002011-12-10T18:04:18.406+00:00That's the idea in power terms, but without th...That's the idea in power terms, but without the humour, or the direct humour at least, and with the marines out there alone. I'm still surprised the idea made it into modern WD at all, but it's a fine seed to have had planted, and it's now lodged in the collective mind.<br /><br />If the bottom line is the issue, GW wouldn't have to do anything as radical as moving to 54mm for Inquisitor. Even thinking only about the marines, we can look at <a href="http://tearsofenvysblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/mvnda-site-now-live.html" rel="nofollow">what Tears of Envy is doing with =][=MVNDA</a>, the proxies and cards. Then there are basics like upgrade sprues for new honours and wargear, like that drive tech, and the equivalents of deputy's badges, as major badges of honour. The 'deputies' themselves could be a gold mine. Change like this could be a major opportunity for a company with the institutional memory and strength in depth of GW.Porkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00604351052444947490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4487413006559113471.post-79217882316849265612011-12-10T17:39:30.067+00:002011-12-10T17:39:30.067+00:00Hey Porky - did you ever read the 'Space Marin...Hey Porky - did you ever read the 'Space Marines in the Movies' article, I think around White Dwarf 300? That addressed this very issue and it was really entertaining.Colonel Kanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16369991242619843229noreply@blogger.com